Dream (new album 2024)

[Luckdragon]

Thanks! And my remarks:

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I wonder why there are so many soloists for "Happy Christmas"?

I think I distinctly hear Freddie H and maybe the others have their own parts or harmonizing or vocalises? Since we don't have access to the full song yet, aside from the previews, this is all perfectly fine and even builds anticipation....but Luca? That's unexpected.

 

My remarks to your remarks:
(for how long are we going to bother with those spoiler things?? )
 

We're on a separate page now. I think we've given everyone a fair chance.

[Surpinto]

My remarks to your remarks:
(for how long are we going to bother with those spoiler things?? )

I was going along with everyone else on this But, yes, let's stop now as this ought to be considered public knowledge at this point, and no longer a spoiler.
 

Yes, to have so many soloists listed is surprising

I repeat the names here;
Luca Brugnoli
Caleb Slater
Frederick Howarth
Hal Avery
Benjamin Hill
 
 

I think I distinctly hear Freddie H and maybe the others have their own parts or harmonizing or vocalises?
Since we don't have access to the full song yet, aside from the previews, this is all perfectly fine and even builds anticipation....but Luca? That's unexpected.

I second you that it could various parts for each, or it could be short descants, like Oskar and Freddie are credited for in 'One Small Voice'.
But I think it's more the former as the audio snipset on Libera Records allows to hear two different voices on verses 5 and 6.

About the full song, pardon me but you are wrong, we do have access to the full song
I mean the original one from John Lennon, it's everywhere on Youtube, like this version
I can't imagine Libera to have destructured the song, it is just too famous.
They can only perform it the same way the original song is, it would be sacrilegious otherwise.


About the name printed on the FC yearbook, the order they are printed is not alphabetical.
It could be just random but more likely it could reflect the order the boys sing the song.
 
If you combine all that, looking to the lyrics on the official libera site, listening to the two libera snipsets, listening to the original full song, taking the names in the given order, we can imagine how the song might be performed.


a - Intro
Vocalises
It correspond to the start of the audio snipset on the oficial site.

b - verse 1
So this is Christmas and what have you done?
Another year over, a new one just begun
It correspond to the end of the snipset on the official site.
Acording the names list, the verse 1 might be sung by Luca .
(By the sound of the voice I was almost sure it was Frederick H, I'm surprised... )

c - verse 2
And so this is Christmas, I hope you have fun
The near and the dear ones, the old and the young
No knowledge here, but according to the list of names, it might be performed by Caleb.

d - Chorus
A very merry Christmas and a happy new year
Let’s hope it’s a good one without any fear

e - verse 3
And so this is Christmas for weak and for strong
The rich and the poor ones, the road is so long
No knowledge here, but according to the list of names, it might be performed by Frederick H

f - verse 4
And so Happy Christmas, for black and for white
For the left and the right ones, let’s stop all the fights
No knowledge here, but according to the list of names, it might be performed by Hal

g - Chorus
A very merry Christmas and a happy new year
Let’s hope it’s a good one without any fear
We know there is a second chorus here according to the original song

h - verse 5
And so this is Christmas and what have we done?
Another year over and a new one just begun
This corresponds with the start of the snipset on the Libera Records site.
We can recognize the voice from the audio and it is probably Frederick H (or Luca ?)

i - verse 6
And so Happy Christmas, we hope you have fun
The near and the dear ones, the old and the young
This corresponds to the middle of the snipset on the Libera Records site.
For the last verse, the names list let understand that it could be Ben.
It would match with the voice sounding young on the scnipset.

j - Chorus
A very merry Christmas and a happy new year
Let’s hope it’s a good one without any fear
This corresponds to the end of the snipset on the Libera Records site.

k - final
War is over if you want it
War is over now

I think you laid out a solid case for how this song would be performed. I did not think to go to the original and speculate as to how that would play out because we know that Libera add their own particular twist to things such as vocalizes, descants, and the like as already mentioned. Would is really be such an unwelcome sacrilege? . Obviously, we could still have some surprises in this song in which there are some deviations from what you are saying, but more likely than not you're right as the logic in this analysis seems spot on to me ....and an enjoyable read as I could distinctly hear your interpretation of the song in my head as sung by Libera

[fugalharmony]

I was hoping they would let Luca's 'other' voice be heard just once on a solo, but I don't think that's going to happen.

[gingerthedog1]

I was hoping they would let Luca's 'other' voice be heard just once on a solo, but I don't think that's going to happen.

Do you mean you would like Luca's deeper voice as a solo? If so, in Resurrectio, it is definitely Luca singing the beginning solo, probably recorded right around when his voice started changing.

[fugalharmony]

I was hoping they would let Luca's 'other' voice be heard just once on a solo, but I don't think that's going to happen.

Do you mean you would like Luca's deeper voice as a solo? If so, in Resurrectio, it is definitely Luca singing the beginning solo, probably recorded right around when his voice started changing.

I'm talking about a different vocal style which he utilizes in some songs in his own recordings. It's a non-Classical, non-Liberaesque style. It's alright though. His gentler voice sounds lovely, so I really shouldn't complain. Also, Libera has never really meant to be a showcase for that style of singing anyways.

[Surpinto]

I was hoping they would let Luca's 'other' voice be heard just once on a solo, but I don't think that's going to happen.

Do you mean you would like Luca's deeper voice as a solo? If so, in Resurrectio, it is definitely Luca singing the beginning solo, probably recorded right around when his voice started changing.

Are you able to hear his lower register in that snippet? He's definitely singing lower than he normally does for Libera certainly, but I'm not hearing anything where a voice change comes through in the notes being delivered. There's no question that you have a much keener ear than I do so I'd love to know what you're hearing in that clip.

With that said, I'm actually VERY surprised how present Luca is on this recording when there are so many boys available for solos in the current line up and given his voice changes. That's no insult or dig against Luca by the way, I just wasn't expecting it.

[justin]

Thanks! And my remarks:

► Show Spoiler

I wonder why there are so many soloists for "Happy Christmas"?

I think I distinctly hear Freddie H and maybe the others have their own parts or harmonizing or vocalises? Since we don't have access to the full song yet, aside from the previews, this is all perfectly fine and even builds anticipation....but Luca? That's unexpected.

 

My remarks to your remarks:
(for how long are we going to bother with those spoiler things?? )
 

► Show Spoiler

Yes, to have so many soloists listed is surprising

I repeat the names here;
Luca Brugnoli
Caleb Slater
Frederick Howarth
Hal Avery
Benjamin Hill
 
 

I think I distinctly hear Freddie H and maybe the others have their own parts or harmonizing or vocalises?
Since we don't have access to the full song yet, aside from the previews, this is all perfectly fine and even builds anticipation....but Luca? That's unexpected.

I second you that it could various parts for each, or it could be short descants, like Oskar and Freddie are credited for in 'One Small Voice'.
But I think it's more the former as the audio snipset on Libera Records allows to hear two different voices on verses 5 and 6.

About the full song, pardon me but you are wrong, we do have access to the full song
I mean the original one from John Lennon, it's everywhere on Youtube, like this version
I can't imagine Libera to have destructured the song, it is just too famous.
They can only perform it the same way the original song is, it would be sacrilegious otherwise.


About the name printed on the FC yearbook, the order they are printed is not alphabetical.
It could be just random but more likely it could reflect the order the boys sing the song.
 
If you combine all that, looking to the lyrics on the official libera site, listening to the two libera snipsets, listening to the original full song, taking the names in the given order, we can imagine how the song might be performed.


a - Intro
Vocalises
It correspond to the start of the audio snipset on the oficial site.

b - verse 1
So this is Christmas and what have you done?
Another year over, a new one just begun
It correspond to the end of the snipset on the official site.
Acording the names list, the verse 1 might be sung by Luca .
(By the sound of the voice I was almost sure it was Frederick H, I'm surprised... )

c - verse 2
And so this is Christmas, I hope you have fun
The near and the dear ones, the old and the young
No knowledge here, but according to the list of names, it might be performed by Caleb.

d - Chorus
A very merry Christmas and a happy new year
Let’s hope it’s a good one without any fear

e - verse 3
And so this is Christmas for weak and for strong
The rich and the poor ones, the road is so long
No knowledge here, but according to the list of names, it might be performed by Frederick H

f - verse 4
And so Happy Christmas, for black and for white
For the left and the right ones, let’s stop all the fights
No knowledge here, but according to the list of names, it might be performed by Hal

g - Chorus
A very merry Christmas and a happy new year
Let’s hope it’s a good one without any fear
We know there is a second chorus here according to the original song

h - verse 5
And so this is Christmas and what have we done?
Another year over and a new one just begun
This corresponds with the start of the snipset on the Libera Records site.
We can recognize the voice from the audio and it is probably Frederick H (or Luca ?)

i - verse 6
And so Happy Christmas, we hope you have fun
The near and the dear ones, the old and the young
This corresponds to the middle of the snipset on the Libera Records site.
For the last verse, the names list let understand that it could be Ben.
It would match with the voice sounding young on the scnipset.

j - Chorus
A very merry Christmas and a happy new year
Let’s hope it’s a good one without any fear
This corresponds to the end of the snipset on the Libera Records site.

k - final
War is over if you want it
War is over now

I would agree with the former scenario, being that they probably paired up Luca + Caleb, FreddieH + Ben, and then Hal somewhere on his own doing vocalises or whatever. I’m almost 100% certain it’s FreddieH + Ben in the teaser on Libera Japan’s website.

[Cat-a-tonic]

That would make sense to me. Luca and Freddie H dinging the main melodies (Hal too possibly - there are several verses) and Caleb and Ben doing descants. As someone said it would make sense for Luca to do the first verse given the order the names are listed in and it could be him in the snippet on the UK site. It's not a million miles from the tone of Resurrectio and Luca is very versatile style and sound wise anyway.

I'm also quite surprised Luca has so many solos - 3. That's nearly as many as Morgan (4) and Joseph (5) who were the group's main concert soloists this summer. But then thinking about I guess that as this will be Luca's last album as a treble they want to take advantage of their last chance and give him a good 'send off' - well deserved given how important he's been to Libera for the last 5 years.

It's really interesting to see the full list and how close or not everyone's guesses got. Of course some couldn't have been got as we didn't know there were solos involved because they haven't been performed and there was no solo in the clip like Dream You Of and Music Was Born. In other cases we have new soloists whose voices individual singing voices have never been heard in concert. In both instances that was a bit tricky!

But it is exciting to have so many new and fairly new soloists. I'm a little disappointed that there's nothing by Cameron or Nathan as this would be their last chance to record a solo but delighted that Lewis is getting his chance on Going Home (though I still think that sounds like Nathan! It's funny - I didn't pick Nathan as the soloist at first but once other people suggested it I was sure that was right!) Glad to see Thomas M getting a solo and I'm hoping Pietro might get an individual part in Lullay as I'm assuming his Twilight credit is as the second voice as in the summer concerts. It may be the same in Lullay as he and Morgan do sound very good together but we'll see. Ben has a few solos and that's not surprising despite it being his first album - he's been doing more and more in concerts and his brother Joseph was the same. Very excited to hear Hal, Caleb, Edward and Theo and of course the whole songs!

Sorry this has turned into one of those posts where I just splurge out everything I'm thinking. Album anticipation is clearly getting to me!

[gingerthedog1]

I was hoping they would let Luca's 'other' voice be heard just once on a solo, but I don't think that's going to happen.

Do you mean you would like Luca's deeper voice as a solo? If so, in Resurrectio, it is definitely Luca singing the beginning solo, probably recorded right around when his voice started changing.

Are you able to hear his lower register in that snippet? He's definitely singing lower than he normally does for Libera certainly, but I'm not hearing anything where a voice change comes through in the notes being delivered. There's no question that you have a much keener ear than I do so I'd love to know what you're hearing in that clip.

With that said, I'm actually VERY surprised how present Luca is on this recording when there are so many boys available for solos in the current line up and given his voice changes. That's no insult or dig against Luca by the way, I just wasn't expecting it.

Yes, at least to me, it sounds like he has lost a bit of brightness and clarity in the higher notes, but has gained clarity and richness in the lower notes. To be fair, he has had a very gradual voice change and this song could have still been recorded mid 2023, up to even just a few months ago this year.

I am also surprised by how many solos he has, especially the fact that they recorded his treble voice for Seabird. I am glad that this happened, since they otherwise would have missed his peak treble period. Seabird is my current album favorite, and it was such a delight to guess, then confirm that Luca was soloist on this track!

[Surpinto]

Do you mean you would like Luca's deeper voice as a solo? If so, in Resurrectio, it is definitely Luca singing the beginning solo, probably recorded right around when his voice started changing.

Are you able to hear his lower register in that snippet? He's definitely singing lower than he normally does for Libera certainly, but I'm not hearing anything where a voice change comes through in the notes being delivered. There's no question that you have a much keener ear than I do so I'd love to know what you're hearing in that clip.

With that said, I'm actually VERY surprised how present Luca is on this recording when there are so many boys available for solos in the current line up and given his voice changes. That's no insult or dig against Luca by the way, I just wasn't expecting it.

Yes, at least to me, it sounds like he has lost a bit of brightness and clarity in the higher notes, but has gained clarity and richness in the lower notes. To be fair, he has had a very gradual voice change and this song could have still been recorded mid 2023, up to even just a few months ago this year.

I am also surprised by how many solos he has, especially the fact that they recorded his treble voice for Seabird. I am glad that this happened, since they otherwise would have missed his peak treble period. Seabird is my current album favorite, and it was such a delight to guess, then confirm that Luca was soloist on this track!

Yeah, I'm not hearing that myself although I take the word of others on this matter. He sounds the same to me as he ever did to be honest. But that's not a bad thing necessarily.

I think you're right that this must have been recorded much prior to summer.

[Lux Aeterna]

Seabird will be released this Friday!

[dani]

Seabird will be released this Friday!

Saturday 2pm I believe as it states the 26th

[fan_de_LoK]

This tweet let understand that they might have recorded 3 different music video this Summer.
(4 perhaps ?)

[Lux Aeterna]

Seabird will be released this Friday!

Saturday 2pm I believe as it states the 26th

I saw that the FB post has been updated,the song will be released this Friday and the video Saturday.

[Luckdragon]

This tweet let understand that they might have recorded 3 different music video this Summer.

Well, we know there was also a green screen video.