TEB wrote:Just to ease everyone's minds for, at least, a little bit, they just sang at the service called, Songs and Lessons for the Christmas season this week. I have it from my "informed source" that Tom was in full form for his part in it.
Even when his voice does change, he will be part of Libera for a very long time. His music talent will last him all of his life and I am sure everyone else has noticed, they are getting a larger group of the older boys remaining again.
That's wonderful news. And it would be sweet to have the older boys stay on, even if not as choristers. I hope they all have a wonderful Christmas, including RP.
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TEB wrote:
Joe is too young for his voice to break yet. Plus, he has a naturally lower speaking voice. His reason for leaving the group, while not released, is probably not his voice.
may i ask for an update? when did joe leave Libera? and what was the last solo he did and in what album? we are referring to joe snelling here, right?
TEB wrote:they are getting a larger group of the older boys remaining again.
i've been feeling nostalgic of this thread... i've been wondering where the older boys are now... perhaps they could create a different group for them... they have the talents and even if they no longer hit the higher notes as they did when they were younger, they could still have good blending and harmony... how do you call that in choir terminolgies - tenor? perhaps a group similar to Gregorian chants... i heard they also started singing as kids...
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TEB wrote:
Joe is too young for his voice to break yet. Plus, he has a naturally lower speaking voice. His reason for leaving the group, while not released, is probably not his voice.
may i ask for an update? when did joe leave Libera? and what was the last solo he did and in what album? we are referring to joe snelling here, right?
Funny enough ther offical reason for Joe leaving Libera is his voice breaking. Now i find that hard to believe he was what 12 ?
dani wrote:
Funny enough ther offical reason for Joe leaving Libera is his voice breaking. Now i find that hard to believe he was what 12 ?
May I ask, please, where you heard this information? It has never been standard policy for Ian Tilly and RP to release anykind of "official reason" for any of the boys leaving the group.
Part of the reason I got from my friend had nothing at all to do with his voice but it was a family decision.
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dani wrote:
Funny enough ther offical reason for Joe leaving Libera is his voice breaking. Now i find that hard to believe he was what 12 ?
May I ask, please, where you heard this information? It has never been standard policy for Ian Tilly and RP to release anykind of "official reason" for any of the boys leaving the group.
Part of the reason I got from my friend had nothing at all to do with his voice but it was a family decision.
I heard from somebody it was his family choice to have him leave(via another forum memeber) but someone the other day involved with the boys said the offical reason coming out of Norbury was voice change. Now as i said i dont buy that but thats the reason being given.
When i say offical i dont mean there has been an annoucment made just somebody at the church asked and they said it was because of voice change.
Well it's not really appropriate to speculate, because it really doesn't acheive anything, but when did a boys voice changing ever lead to them being forced to leave the group. Lots of boys have still contributed to Libera after their voices change. Granted, it's not possible for every single boy to remain in Libera after voice change, because it wouldn't be logistically plausible, but unless there was a severe, abrupt change to Joe's singing voice, I can't imagine him leaving Libera for that reason.
I just hope he was part of the decision, and he had some say in matters, because it would be pretty disheartening if he had to leave and he didn't want to.
JimmyRiddle wrote:Well it's not really appropriate to speculate, because it really doesn't acheive anything, but when did a boys voice changing ever lead to them being forced to leave the group. Lots of boys have still contributed to Libera after their voices change. Granted, it's not possible for every single boy to remain in Libera after voice change, because it wouldn't be logistically plausible, but unless there was a severe, abrupt change to Joe's singing voice, I can't imagine him leaving Libera for that reason.
I just hope he was part of the decision, and he had some say in matters, because it would be pretty disheartening if he had to leave and he didn't want to.
will jim i am sorry if i had to put tom and joe in all of it becues they are my favriet boys in the world i injoy fans cons on here so it hlpes me to injoy libera i hope that i get to meet them in prson some day from jenna
It's certainly not worth speculating on the reasons here, I agree.
I'd imagine that leaving would be somewhat bittersweet for most of the young men; it's clearly a close-knit group, and they obviously enjoy what they are doing. On the other hand, though, I'm sure Joe has a lot more time now to pursue some other interests and activities.
As for the age when voices change, it of course varies from boy to boy, but twelve is certainly plausible. I know my voice was changing when I was twelve and thirteen years old, although pretty much without suddenly breaking.
There's also plenty of evidence that the young men don't have to leave Libera because their voice changes, although a fair few seem to of their own volition. (Not infrequently trebles seem to have some difficulty getting used to and/or accepting their "grown-up" voices. One sort of example that comes to mind was a radio interview with John Rutter I heard a week or two ago on NPR, wherein he sang a bit of In Dulci Jubilo more capably than I could have, and then apologized for his "poor" singing.)
DrewE wrote:It's certainly not worth speculating on the reasons here, I agree.
I'd imagine that leaving would be somewhat bittersweet for most of the young men; it's clearly a close-knit group, and they obviously enjoy what they are doing. On the other hand, though, I'm sure Joe has a lot more time now to pursue some other interests and activities.
As for the age when voices change, it of course varies from boy to boy, but twelve is certainly plausible. I know my voice was changing when I was twelve and thirteen years old, although pretty much without suddenly breaking.
There's also plenty of evidence that the young men don't have to leave Libera because their voice changes, although a fair few seem to of their own volition. (Not infrequently trebles seem to have some difficulty getting used to and/or accepting their "grown-up" voices. One sort of example that comes to mind was a radio interview with John Rutter I heard a week or two ago on NPR, wherein he sang a bit of In Dulci Jubilo more capably than I could have, and then apologized for his "poor" singing.)
i thank of libera as bothers and singers i dot thank of them as a boys band i thank of them as angels or angelic people and i hope peopel no thats what i thank of them as i mean i was lucky to have there dvd and cds and its so much thank ful for them too as will
I also heard that Joe left beacouse of his parents' choice.
And talking about Tom's voice it's useless to compare him with some other boys who still sing at their 14. It's not the matter of age,but the matter of maturity, one can do nothing about it. Ben Crawley's voice broke at his 16, Jean-Baptiste Maunier's (soloist from Les Petits Chanteurs de St Marc) almost at 17.
It's really a pity that Tom's voice have broken so early. I was almost shocked when I heard his low notes in You were there, though they're very beautiful.
But he would still be able to sing middle parts for some time.
I don't think the focus is just on the boys voices dropping its whats behind it, we've grown attatched to these boys and I guess we make a big deal out of it because we'll miss them. most of them go on to sing another style of music or they disappear. I know I'll miss Tom's singing, his voice as it is now, not as it is when he's older.
I don't think the focus is just on the boys voices dropping its whats behind it, we've grown attatched to these boys and I guess we make a big deal out of it because we'll miss them. most of them go on to sing another style of music or they disappear. I know I'll miss Tom's singing, his voice as it is now, not as it is when he's older.
I don't think the focus is just on the boys voices dropping its whats behind it, we've grown attatched to these boys and I guess we make a big deal out of it because we'll miss them. most of them go on to sing another style of music or they disappear. I know I'll miss Tom's singing, his voice as it is now, not as it is when he's older.
And it would be sweet to have the older boys stay on, even if not as choristers. I hope they all have a wonderful Christmas, including RP.
