Canada Concerts - April 2011

[dani]

I'm still a little confused about this so called 'negative' blog that has found a way into their very busy and tight schedule to bring upset to a few boys. Until it's shown and we can read it and form our own conclusions surrounding it's details, then it's not something we can tackle and speculate against.

Of all the folks here, I was sure you would know Jimmy.
You're still the king of links to all things Libera.

Oh don't worry I will find it, but I have been at work most of today, and I feel a little tired for my searches lol but thanks I just read your message above.

Good luck finding it.

[dearmadine]

As the publisher of a blog can you say the same thing?

I'm not sure what you're question is.

Will I ever criticize a Libera boy on my blog? I've complained about Libera staffs once or twice but I've never criticized a Libera member ever since I opened my blog in 2009. I would rather write about all the good things about the boys and and keep "criticism" to myself. But that's just my style and no one has to adopt my philosophy.

[JimmyRiddle]

http://dearmadine.blogspot.com/

You can read the review here.........We are talking about Stefan....

No, Tom referred to a blog prior to the London concert so it must have been the St Michael's concert.

[symphonica7]

As the publisher of a blog can you say the same thing?

I'm not sure what you're question is.

Will I ever criticize a Libera boy on my blog? I've complained about Libera staffs once or twice but I've never criticized a Libera member ever since I opened my blog in 2009. I would rather write about all the good things about the boys and and keep "criticism" to myself. But that's just my style and no one has to adopt my philosophy.

Hey no worries, I know you meant good by it......I personally enjoyed reading the review......whatever is being implied by the above question...is out of line..........


p.s.. it's okay to be criticized sometimes.....

[JimmyRiddle]

As the publisher of a blog can you say the same thing?

I'm not sure what you're question is.

Will I ever criticize a Libera boy on my blog? I've complained about Libera staffs once or twice but I've never criticized a Libera member ever since I opened my blog in 2009. I would rather write about all the good things about the boys and and keep "criticism" to myself. But that's just my style and no one has to adopt my philosophy.

I have to concur with this aswell. If anything your blog as been well balanced, insightful and you couldn't be anymore positive than what your friends from Korea did last year, with the handmade gifts they made for Libera.

[symphonica7]

As the publisher of a blog can you say the same thing?

I'm not sure what you're question is.

Will I ever criticize a Libera boy on my blog? I've complained about Libera staffs once or twice but I've never criticized a Libera member ever since I opened my blog in 2009. I would rather write about all the good things about the boys and and keep "criticism" to myself. But that's just my style and no one has to adopt my philosophy.

I have to concur with this aswell. If anything your blog as been well balanced, insightful and you couldn't be anymore positive than what your friends from Korea did last year, with the handmade gifts they made for Libera.

x1000

[tom413]

But can you not see that is part and parcel of being performers?

Libera is no different to any other act that gets reviews good/bad?

I think Libera is very different from "any other act," so it's not possible for me to compare them in that manner.
International recording contract notwithstanding, none of these kids are pulling down serious money for what they are doing.
They attend regular schools and generally lead normal lives.
When the members are required to pull out of school and dedicate their lives to performing then I would agree.
I think it's amazing what kind of product they put out considering these disadvantages.

With that said, it's all a matter of degree. I'm not interested in only reading, "Wow, they were awesome" over and over any more than I am interested in crushing the spirit of an individual little kid who is learning about what it is like to be a musical perfomer.

[dani]

But can you not see that is part and parcel of being performers?

Libera is no different to any other act that gets reviews good/bad?

I think Libera is very different from "any other act," so it's not possible for me to compare them in that manner.
International recording contract notwithstanding, none of these kids are pulling down serious money for what they are doing.
They attend regular schools and generally lead normal lives.
When the members are required to pull out of school and dedicate their lives to performing then I would agree.
I think it's amazing what kind of product they put out considering these disadvantages.

With that said, it's all a matter of degree. I'm not interested in only reading, "Wow, they were awesome" over and over any more than I am interested in crushing the spirit of an individual little kid who is learning about what it is like to be a musical perfomer.

It not about what they are making.

They sell tickets to a concert ( and for a boy choir the ticket are not exactly cheap) and so then therefor they are open to criticism.
Its no different to child actors and so on. It is the nature of the beast im afraid and nothing will alter that.


And if the reviews are going to hurt some of the boys feelings then simply dont read the reviews, im assuming nobody holds a gun to there hand demanding to read what people say.

[symphonica7]

But can you not see that is part and parcel of being performers?

Libera is no different to any other act that gets reviews good/bad?

I think Libera is very different from "any other act," so it's not possible for me to compare them in that manner.
International recording contract notwithstanding, none of these kids are pulling down serious money for what they are doing.
They attend regular schools and generally lead normal lives.
When the members are required to pull out of school and dedicate their lives to performing then I would agree.
I think it's amazing what kind of product they put out considering these disadvantages.

With that said, it's all a matter of degree. I'm not interested in only reading, "Wow, they were awesome" over and over any more than I am interested in crushing the spirit of an individual little kid who is learning about what it is like to be a musical perfomer.

Libera is on the verge of re-writing the "choir boys" history(if they haven't done so already)......it's a big deal! Libera is an international sensation....regardless if it's part time or full time!! Being criticized is part of the territory...you want to be on the main stage?? Take the heat or get out of the kitchen! I understand your concern....but I'm sure all the boys and their parents knew very well the risks involved....
and I'm sure they don't need our pity...

[tom413]

Libera is on the verge of re-writing the "choir boys" history(if they haven't done so already)......it's a big deal! Libera is an international sensation....regardless if it's part time or full time!! Being criticized is part of the territory...you want to be on the main stage?? Take the heat or get out of the kitchen! I understand your concern....but I'm sure all the boys and their parents knew very well the risks involved....
and I'm sure they don't need our pity...

They are certainly a sensation to members of this group, but how well known are they really?

The venue we were at last night didn't have that much seating capacity (although thankfully it was nearly full) and tomorrow's site is smaller still.

To the extent that we are getting locals to attend these concerts it's due to the support of the sponsors of the tour and the work of the Libera ground crew distributing advertising about the shows throughout Ontario's countryside.

They rely on the kindness of bloggers and Youtube channels to do additional promotion for them.

They have no dedicated promotional machine looking out for them that I am aware of. They haven't even had copies of Peace Deluxe available on the tour so far, the attempts to obtain them for sale by one of the tour sponsors notwithstanding. He was actually happy (in a perverse sort of way) that representatives from EMI Canada were at St. Mike's to witness the lost sales. Maybe they'll be able to deliver some copies before the tour is over.

These sort of things shouldn't happen to a sensation.

I'm not sure that Mr. Prizeman would want to increase their schedule exponentially to accomplish the increased exposure that such a status would require anyway. He has been quoted in such a way as to lead you to believe that his aspirations for the group are being met.

As to the parents expectations, I don't know what their position is. I've never asked any of them that I've talked to that question, but it might be interesting to learn that perspective. Hopefully someone gets to ask that question soon and share the answer although that person will likely be European as most of the parents don't attend the concerts I go to in North America.

As to the boys perspective, while with 23 touring members answers may vary, I believe we got an insight into at least one member's position last night.

[dani]

I'm not sure that Mr. Prizeman would want to increase their schedule exponentially to accomplish the increased exposure that such a status would require anyway. He has been quoted in such a way as to lead you to believe that his aspirations for the group are being met.

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Too be fair even if he wanted to ( i dont think he does) he could not as the boys can only tour during the hoildays. So he gets as much as he can out of them. Lets not forget that also for the boys this is a hobby so school must always come before the choir so i think Mr Prizeman has found the middle ground. The choir has been going over 20 years so he must be doing something right

[fan_de_LoK]

Turning back to Toronto from a little tourism stroll on Lake Huron we stopped at the Center in the Square (Kitchener) to retreive our tickets for Monday concert.

The lady at the box office said the sales were going well for the Libera Concert

[Rebecca (:]

Turning back to Toronto from a little tourism stroll on Lake Huron we stopped at the Center in the Square (Kitchener) to retreive our tickets for Monday concert.

The lady at the box office said the sales were going well for the Libera Concert

That's great! That should be a fun concert Hope this one is fantastic as well!

[dani]

Turning back to Toronto from a little tourism stroll on Lake Huron we stopped at the Center in the Square (Kitchener) to retreive our tickets for Monday concert.

The lady at the box office said the sales were going well for the Libera Concert

Thats good. They seem to be selling out better in Canada than they did for there English winter tour in Oct.

[symphonica7]

Libera is on the verge of re-writing the "choir boys" history(if they haven't done so already)......it's a big deal! Libera is an international sensation....regardless if it's part time or full time!! Being criticized is part of the territory...you want to be on the main stage?? Take the heat or get out of the kitchen! I understand your concern....but I'm sure all the boys and their parents knew very well the risks involved....
and I'm sure they don't need our pity...

They are certainly a sensation to members of this group, but how well known are they really?

The venue we were at last night didn't have that much seating capacity (although thankfully it was nearly full) and tomorrow's site is smaller still.

To the extent that we are getting locals to attend these concerts it's due to the support of the sponsors of the tour and the work of the Libera ground crew distributing advertising about the shows throughout Ontario's countryside.

They rely on the kindness of bloggers and Youtube channels to do additional promotion for them.

They have no dedicated promotional machine looking out for them that I am aware of. They haven't even had copies of Peace Deluxe available on the tour so far, the attempts to obtain them for sale by one of the tour sponsors notwithstanding. He was actually happy (in a perverse sort of way) that representatives from EMI Canada were at St. Mike's to witness the lost sales. Maybe they'll be able to deliver some copies before the tour is over.

These sort of things shouldn't happen to a sensation.

I'm not sure that Mr. Prizeman would want to increase their schedule exponentially to accomplish the increased exposure that such a status would require anyway. He has been quoted in such a way as to lead you to believe that his aspirations for the group are being met.

As to the parents expectations, I don't know what their position is. I've never asked any of them that I've talked to that question, but it might be interesting to learn that perspective. Hopefully someone gets to ask that question soon and share the answer although that person will likely be European as most of the parents don't attend the concerts I go to in North America.

As to the boys perspective, while with 23 touring members answers may vary, I believe we got an insight into at least one member's position last night.

I can tell you right now.....they might not be as recognized in Canada and America......which is why they are touring over here more frequently...(reason for the empty seats) but when it comes to choir/classical music in the mainstream scheme of things......they are Huge!!!! Topping the charts in their category in many Asian Countries and Europe as well.....
Try finding a seat at a Japanese venue!!! You better order your ticket a month ahead of time or be screwed.

And what artist do you know that doesn't utilize Youtube and bloggers to promote their music? You'd be a fool not to......as that is the biggest market any musical act can take advantage of. By the way doesn't matter who you are... CD sales are down all across the board.....ever since Napster......even top Pop artist find it hard to sell CD's! You don't have to ask the parents anything really........I'm sure they push their Liberas just as hard as any other parent that has kid's in the entertainment industry.....
They Love the spotlight....it's a previlaledge to be a part of Libera....and yes we do love them because they come across as being modest and doing it for the love of music.....but behind the smoking mirrors there's tons of money being made.....which is a whole different story.....(not going there) ........

I'm curious who the Libera member was that was hurt by the review??????

By the way.........I'm just basing my opinion my friend, not an attack on you or anything...