dani wrote:Whats with him being a cat ? i dont get it.
Not really sure how it got started... by the time I got in front of him he was already meowing and that was 4:30 in the afternoon...
He was meowing too as I approached him in the autograph signing. But I saw some video where Cassius did the same thing at The Podium signing.
I think the point, Dani, is that there's no point. It's a game he plays. He also does Donald Duck. It's his first time on tour, but he looked as though he'd done it before countless times.
dani wrote:Whats with him being a cat ? i dont get it.
Not really sure how it got started... by the time I got in front of him he was already meowing and that was 4:30 in the afternoon...
He was meowing too as I approached him in the autograph signing. But I saw some video where Cassius did the same thing at The Podium signing.
I think the point, Dani, is that there's no point. It's a game he plays. He also does Donald Duck. It's his first time on tour, but he looked as though he'd done it before countless times.
He does seem to be the new popular cute kid so good luck on him enjoying it all.
lacrymosa2 wrote:I found this video on YouTube this morning by a disgruntled fan commenting on Andy Winter's behaviour: " onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
FYI, there is some "supposed" profanity in this video. Watch at your own risk...
Yeah, I saw that before. Don't quite know what to make of it, really. I mean, I don't know Andy Winter and I'm hesitant to judge based on one incident. We all have our bad days.
Anyone here ever talked to Andy Winter before?
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lacrymosa2 wrote:I found this video on YouTube this morning by a disgruntled fan commenting on Andy Winter's behaviour: " onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
FYI, there is some "supposed" profanity in this video. Watch at your own risk...
I wonder if it was necessary to publish his bitter personal experience on YouTube. Using a vulgar word to a stranger and in front of groups on minors is uncool. But publishing it on youtube to tell the world "look what he has done!" is totally, totally not cool.
lacrymosa2 wrote:I found this video on YouTube this morning by a disgruntled fan commenting on Andy Winter's behaviour: " onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
FYI, there is some "supposed" profanity in this video. Watch at your own risk...
I wonder if it was necessary to publish his bitter personal experience on YouTube. Using a vulgar word to a stranger and in front of groups on minors is uncool. But publishing it on youtube to tell the world "look what he has done!" is totally, totally not cool.
I don't have much respect for this Youtube user anymore. I certainly wouldn't let his account have weight in my opinion of anyone in the Libera organization. This is the same guy who walked into Libera's dressing room and touch a robe during the Showtime appearance.
I was there at both autograph signing (afternoon and evening) sessions, I was able to have quick exchange with the 23 members in the table just fine. Both times I was there it went fine. I had a pleasant experience. So don't let this one user paint a picture of what actually happened there. Certainly not this Youtube user.
This guy too sells his autographed items. I don't have much respect for anyone who sells autographed items, especially somebody who supposedly is a fan. If you don't want autographed items then don't go to the signing. Or give it to other fans. Selling them gives us a hint what this guy is all about really (as far as Libera is concerned, don't want to judge the whole person) and why he's there lining up for the signing.
In all honesty, I believe that what Andy Winter has said is out of line. He could have said that in a nicer way. But come on! I think that word is often used by most people.
I only like to think it this way, Andy Winter wouldn't have made such comment if the person involved haven't done anything wrong during the session. I don't know Andy, but I don't think he would do such thing just because he wanted to or he's just plain rude. Libera's management or even the parents of the boys wouldn't entrust the kids to him if he has attitude problems.
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I also agree that posting such thing is inappropriate. There are better ways to voice out if you have problems with a certain person. Perhaps message him or someone related to him instead? Making all the people see what he have done/said would only cause ruckus to fans specially the Filipinos fans.
phlibera wrote:I don't have much respect for this Youtube user anymore. I certainly wouldn't let his account have weight in my opinion of anyone in the Libera organization. This is the same guy who walked into Libera's dressing room and touch a robe during the Showtime appearance.
I was there at both autograph signing (afternoon and evening) sessions, I was able to have quick exchange with the 23 members in the table just fine. Both times I was there it went fine. I had a pleasant experience. So don't let this one user paint a picture of what actually happened there. Certainly not this Youtube user.
This guy too sells his autographed items. I don't have much respect for anyone who sells autographed items, especially somebody who supposedly is a fan. If you don't want autographed items then don't go to the signing. Or give it to other fans. Selling them gives us a hint what this guy is all about really (as far as Libera is concerned, don't want to judge the whole person) and why he's there lining up for the signing.
I had no prior knowledge of the poster selling the autographs, but the entering the locker room/dressing room and rummaging the artist's items are wrong. In fact, Andy would have every reason to be dissatisfied with the YouTube user.
Call me a hypocritical opportunist, but I wonder if this will affect any Libera concert or appearance in the Philippines in the future. I'm not condoning Andy Winter's attitude but surely, something like this will reflect badly on Libera and they will not be so happy about it.
I'm not sure what Andy's job is with Libera but he has been with the group for a long time. Also, I think he's one of those who updates their Youtube videos and FB page. He may very well stumble into this particular one.
As I said, Mr. Winter could very well be the rude person that the poster is trying to portray. Or he could not. He could just be having a bad day and/or having a hard time making sure that no inappropriate things happen at the signing. We all have those times.
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carina_gino20 wrote:Call me a hypocritical opportunist, but I wonder if this will affect any Libera concert or appearance in the Philippines in the future. I'm not condoning Andy Winter's attitude but surely, something like this will reflect badly on Libera and they will not be so happy about it.
I'm actually thinking about the same thing. We were so lucky to be able to have separate Meet and Greet and another 2 after the concert. And not only that, we got to meet them all. If this case worsen, they might lessen the interaction of the boys to the Filipino fans next time they come. You know, just to make sure something like that wouldn't happen again.
chix wrote:
I'm actually thinking about the same thing. We were so lucky to be able to have separate Meet and Greet and another 2 after the concert. And not only that, we got to meet them all. If this case worsen, they might lessen the interaction of the boys to the Filipino fans next time they come. You know, just to make sure something like that wouldn't happen again.
Yeah. I mean, if they were like other big stars, they might just blow it off and not care about it. But they've shown that they do care about what the fans think. As popular as they are now, they're also not at that level yet so I think in a way, it will disappoint them if they see this.
I can be accused of trying to whitewash things here. But hey, I'm a fan. I want them to come back to the Philippines and I'm worried that this could change things.
"I'm drowning here, and you're describing the water!" - Melvin Udall
Using a vulgar word to a stranger and in front of groups on minors is uncool. But publishing it on youtube to tell the world "look what he has done!" is totally, totally not cool. 
