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Cat-a-tonic wrote: <span title="Mon Oct 28, 2024 9:56 am">1 month ago</span>A question - who's the boy who comes to collect Luca from the library? I'm terrible with faces so even with the help of Padmachou's gallery I'm not sure.
I think it's Edward !
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Reading the topic I see that the video has not yet been posted here on LD :mrgreen:

Here it is :wink:

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Padmachou wrote: <span title="Mon Oct 28, 2024 10:07 am">1 month ago</span>
Cat-a-tonic wrote: <span title="Mon Oct 28, 2024 9:56 am">1 month ago</span>A question - who's the boy who comes to collect Luca from the library? I'm terrible with faces so even with the help of Padmachou's gallery I'm not sure.
I think it's Edward !
Thank you! :) That was my best guess but I wasn't at all sure.
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Confirmed :)
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Cat-a-tonic wrote: <span title="Mon Oct 28, 2024 9:56 am">1 month ago</span>
Surpinto wrote: <span title="Sat Oct 26, 2024 2:55 pm">1 month ago</span>
But apart from fun and guessing games, the video has a nice story theme with Luca being drawn out of his interior minds isolation (symbolized by the library) into an outer world in which the exterior allows his mind and spirit to soar upwards like the sea bird. Of course the flip book and the ending scene of Luca back in the library implies that any flight of fancy (pun sort of intended) in which our minds and spirits are drawn upwards can be either symbolic or actual.
I really like this interpretation! The first time I saw the lyrics of Sea Bird written down I didn't really get it - it seemed an odd song for Libera. But now having heard the song and with this gorgeous video and the link to the album title Dreams it makes more sense and I think your interpretation of it is great.
Thanks! I too didn't really get the lyrics at first, but I think songs like this (for me anyhow) take some time to warm up to. Seeing it sung live in concert with the stage movement effect of bird wings was really magical.
gingerthedog1 wrote: <span title="Sat Oct 26, 2024 6:00 pm">1 month ago</span>
Throughout his Libera career, I have always appreciated his technical skill, but hoped for more emotive interpretation. But here, In his singing, as well as his acting in the video, he shows a deep connection to the story behind the lyrics.
Ditto. He knows what he's doing.
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Surpinto wrote: <span title="Mon Oct 28, 2024 7:27 pm">1 month ago</span>
Cat-a-tonic wrote: <span title="Mon Oct 28, 2024 9:56 am">1 month ago</span>
Surpinto wrote: <span title="Sat Oct 26, 2024 2:55 pm">1 month ago</span>
But apart from fun and guessing games, the video has a nice story theme with Luca being drawn out of his interior minds isolation (symbolized by the library) into an outer world in which the exterior allows his mind and spirit to soar upwards like the sea bird. Of course the flip book and the ending scene of Luca back in the library implies that any flight of fancy (pun sort of intended) in which our minds and spirits are drawn upwards can be either symbolic or actual.
I really like this interpretation! The first time I saw the lyrics of Sea Bird written down I didn't really get it - it seemed an odd song for Libera. But now having heard the song and with this gorgeous video and the link to the album title Dreams it makes more sense and I think your interpretation of it is great.
Thanks! I too didn't really get the lyrics at first, but I think songs like this (for me anyhow) take some time to warm up to. Seeing it sung live in concert with the stage movement effect of bird wings was really magical.
Very surprised to hear this! The lyrics of Seabird are what make the song extra special to me, I find them incredibly well-written and thought they were done by a professional poet. In comparison, some Libera lyrics are feel cheesy and poorly written, and feel amateur and overdone to me.

I find the lyrics to be meaningful without being religious, taking nature as its focal point. The words feel poignant and inspiring while also preserving a sense of wonder and carefree innocence. I particularly love how the image of toes in sand and the birds in sequence come up again and again, the speaker, the sea, the sand, and the birds in communion with one another, all moving together as one, dreaming of a "sea change".

I may be a bit biased as the poem also reminds me of one of my childhood books, The Little Prince. I wonder if that was an inspiration behind the poem itself.
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gingerthedog1 wrote: <span title="Mon Oct 28, 2024 7:53 pm">1 month ago</span>
Surpinto wrote: <span title="Mon Oct 28, 2024 7:27 pm">1 month ago</span>
Cat-a-tonic wrote: <span title="Mon Oct 28, 2024 9:56 am">1 month ago</span>

I really like this interpretation! The first time I saw the lyrics of Sea Bird written down I didn't really get it - it seemed an odd song for Libera. But now having heard the song and with this gorgeous video and the link to the album title Dreams it makes more sense and I think your interpretation of it is great.
Thanks! I too didn't really get the lyrics at first, but I think songs like this (for me anyhow) take some time to warm up to. Seeing it sung live in concert with the stage movement effect of bird wings was really magical.
Very surprised to hear this! The lyrics of Seabird are what make the song extra special to me, I find them incredibly well-written and thought they were done by a professional poet. In comparison, some Libera lyrics are feel cheesy and poorly written, and feel amateur and overdone to me.

I find the lyrics to be meaningful without being religious, taking nature as its focal point. The words feel poignant and inspiring while also preserving a sense of wonder and carefree innocence. I particularly love how the image of toes in sand and the birds in sequence come up again and again, the speaker, the sea, the sand, and the birds in communion with one another, all moving together as one, dreaming of a "sea change".

I may be a bit biased as the poem also reminds me of one of my childhood books, The Little Prince. I wonder if that was an inspiration behind the poem itself.
I'm afraid I need to walk back my previous remark :oops:

In trying to respond quickly I can see now that I didn't articulate my thoughts accurately. Indeed the lyrics are poetic and form a resonant image in one's mind. Perhaps, and exactly as you described, even a sort of childhood "fantasy" (can't think of a better word at the moment) like the little prince.

My agreement with Cat-a-tonic was regarding whether, and in what way, those lyrics would make sense for a Libera song. It isn't just about the poetic words on the page only, but also the way the song is performed and the way emphasis is placed on the lyrics through the performance and music itself. In other words, how Libera would bring the words to life was unclear when seeing them in the concert program before I had heard the song.

My comment about taking time to warm up to songs such as this one wasn't actually so much regarding “Sea Bird” or even Libera (probably my worst oversight in my post) but about songs in general which have more abstract lyrics. Such songs need to be experienced musically rather than the words simply read.

Songs like "Sea Bird" which bring poetry to life are wonderful always.

Am I making any better sense now? :?
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Surpinto wrote: <span title="Mon Oct 28, 2024 9:32 pm">1 month ago</span>
gingerthedog1 wrote: <span title="Mon Oct 28, 2024 7:53 pm">1 month ago</span>
Surpinto wrote: <span title="Mon Oct 28, 2024 7:27 pm">1 month ago</span>

Thanks! I too didn't really get the lyrics at first, but I think songs like this (for me anyhow) take some time to warm up to. Seeing it sung live in concert with the stage movement effect of bird wings was really magical.
Very surprised to hear this! The lyrics of Seabird are what make the song extra special to me, I find them incredibly well-written and thought they were done by a professional poet. In comparison, some Libera lyrics are feel cheesy and poorly written, and feel amateur and overdone to me.

I find the lyrics to be meaningful without being religious, taking nature as its focal point. The words feel poignant and inspiring while also preserving a sense of wonder and carefree innocence. I particularly love how the image of toes in sand and the birds in sequence come up again and again, the speaker, the sea, the sand, and the birds in communion with one another, all moving together as one, dreaming of a "sea change".

I may be a bit biased as the poem also reminds me of one of my childhood books, The Little Prince. I wonder if that was an inspiration behind the poem itself.
I'm afraid I need to walk back my previous remark :oops:

In trying to respond quickly I can see now that I didn't articulate my thoughts accurately. Indeed the lyrics are poetic and form a resonant image in one's mind. Perhaps, and exactly as you described, even a sort of childhood "fantasy" (can't think of a better word at the moment) like the little prince.

My agreement with Cat-a-tonic was regarding whether, and in what way, those lyrics would make sense for a Libera song. It isn't just about the poetic words on the page only, but also the way the song is performed and the way emphasis is placed on the lyrics through the performance and music itself. In other words, how Libera would bring the words to life was unclear when seeing them in the concert program before I had heard the song.

My comment about taking time to warm up to songs such as this one wasn't actually so much regarding “Sea Bird” or even Libera (probably my worst oversight in my post) but about songs in general which have more abstract lyrics. Such songs need to be experienced musically rather than the words simply read.

Songs like "Sea Bird" which bring poetry to life are wonderful always.

Am I making any better sense now? :?
You're certainly making sense to me. This is pretty much how I felt. I couldn't see how it was going to be a Libera song partly because the lyrics are quite deep and poetic and yes contrast with some of the lyrics from other Libera songs (to be fair I also have a soft spot for a certain type of cheesy and I think Libera as a young choir can get away with lyrics that might be overly cheesy in adults). So it wasn't that I didn't like the lyrics but in a way that they felt too deep and complex for a young soloist and choir.

But a you say the song is much more than the words written on a page and when I saw it at Chester with Joseph's solo and the harmonies and the beautiful staging it started to work for me. And now with the video and maybe even with the benefit of a slightly older soloist I can see how it works as a Libera piece if that makes sense.
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Cat-a-tonic wrote: <span title="Tue Oct 29, 2024 9:19 am">1 month ago</span>
Surpinto wrote: <span title="Mon Oct 28, 2024 9:32 pm">1 month ago</span>
gingerthedog1 wrote: <span title="Mon Oct 28, 2024 7:53 pm">1 month ago</span>

Very surprised to hear this! The lyrics of Seabird are what make the song extra special to me, I find them incredibly well-written and thought they were done by a professional poet. In comparison, some Libera lyrics are feel cheesy and poorly written, and feel amateur and overdone to me.

I find the lyrics to be meaningful without being religious, taking nature as its focal point. The words feel poignant and inspiring while also preserving a sense of wonder and carefree innocence. I particularly love how the image of toes in sand and the birds in sequence come up again and again, the speaker, the sea, the sand, and the birds in communion with one another, all moving together as one, dreaming of a "sea change".

I may be a bit biased as the poem also reminds me of one of my childhood books, The Little Prince. I wonder if that was an inspiration behind the poem itself.
I'm afraid I need to walk back my previous remark :oops:

In trying to respond quickly I can see now that I didn't articulate my thoughts accurately. Indeed the lyrics are poetic and form a resonant image in one's mind. Perhaps, and exactly as you described, even a sort of childhood "fantasy" (can't think of a better word at the moment) like the little prince.

My agreement with Cat-a-tonic was regarding whether, and in what way, those lyrics would make sense for a Libera song. It isn't just about the poetic words on the page only, but also the way the song is performed and the way emphasis is placed on the lyrics through the performance and music itself. In other words, how Libera would bring the words to life was unclear when seeing them in the concert program before I had heard the song.

My comment about taking time to warm up to songs such as this one wasn't actually so much regarding “Sea Bird” or even Libera (probably my worst oversight in my post) but about songs in general which have more abstract lyrics. Such songs need to be experienced musically rather than the words simply read.

Songs like "Sea Bird" which bring poetry to life are wonderful always.

Am I making any better sense now? :?
You're certainly making sense to me. This is pretty much how I felt. I couldn't see how it was going to be a Libera song partly because the lyrics are quite deep and poetic and yes contrast with some of the lyrics from other Libera songs (to be fair I also have a soft spot for a certain type of cheesy and I think Libera as a young choir can get away with lyrics that might be overly cheesy in adults). So it wasn't that I didn't like the lyrics but in a way that they felt too deep and complex for a young soloist and choir.

But a you say the song is much more than the words written on a page and when I saw it at Chester with Joseph's solo and the harmonies and the beautiful staging it started to work for me. And now with the video and maybe even with the benefit of a slightly older soloist I can see how it works as a Libera piece if that makes sense.
Yup! Totally get you on that 100%.
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Also thinking about it some more I think the video helped as it featured the boys doing natural things for children of that age which worked for the lyrics and the participants. So I could see how they fitted together. Plus Ben running up with his paper bird and that smile on Thomas M's face as he splashes in the water are just so heartwarming
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Surpinto wrote: <span title="Tue Oct 29, 2024 9:54 am">1 month ago</span>
Cat-a-tonic wrote: <span title="Tue Oct 29, 2024 9:19 am">1 month ago</span>
Surpinto wrote: <span title="Mon Oct 28, 2024 9:32 pm">1 month ago</span>

I'm afraid I need to walk back my previous remark :oops:

In trying to respond quickly I can see now that I didn't articulate my thoughts accurately. Indeed the lyrics are poetic and form a resonant image in one's mind. Perhaps, and exactly as you described, even a sort of childhood "fantasy" (can't think of a better word at the moment) like the little prince.

My agreement with Cat-a-tonic was regarding whether, and in what way, those lyrics would make sense for a Libera song. It isn't just about the poetic words on the page only, but also the way the song is performed and the way emphasis is placed on the lyrics through the performance and music itself. In other words, how Libera would bring the words to life was unclear when seeing them in the concert program before I had heard the song.

My comment about taking time to warm up to songs such as this one wasn't actually so much regarding “Sea Bird” or even Libera (probably my worst oversight in my post) but about songs in general which have more abstract lyrics. Such songs need to be experienced musically rather than the words simply read.

Songs like "Sea Bird" which bring poetry to life are wonderful always.

Am I making any better sense now? :?
You're certainly making sense to me. This is pretty much how I felt. I couldn't see how it was going to be a Libera song partly because the lyrics are quite deep and poetic and yes contrast with some of the lyrics from other Libera songs (to be fair I also have a soft spot for a certain type of cheesy and I think Libera as a young choir can get away with lyrics that might be overly cheesy in adults). So it wasn't that I didn't like the lyrics but in a way that they felt too deep and complex for a young soloist and choir.

But a you say the song is much more than the words written on a page and when I saw it at Chester with Joseph's solo and the harmonies and the beautiful staging it started to work for me. And now with the video and maybe even with the benefit of a slightly older soloist I can see how it works as a Libera piece if that makes sense.
Yup! Totally get you on that 100%.
Yes, that does make sense! Please do not take my comments as a criticism of your opinion! It is perfectly valid to disagree with me, or even... to dislike Libera songs/lyrics. :o :lol:

I can see why the lyrics might seem abstract or "grown-up" for children to sing, but I think that is what I like about them. For me personally, they are definitely nowhere near the level of abstraction that I usually find in poetry... although I am typically reading adult poetry, not lyrics for children's choirs!

I do think the video did a really wonderful job in showing a child's perspective of the song's meaning.
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gingerthedog1 wrote: <span title="Fri Nov 22, 2024 8:56 pm">1 week ago</span> Please do not take my comments as a criticism of your opinion! It is perfectly valid to disagree with me, or even... to dislike Libera songs/lyrics. :o :lol:
No worries! Nothing taken the wrong way....though I'm not sure how valid it would be to dislike Libera songs or lyrics :lol: :wink: :lol: J/K
gingerthedog1 wrote: <span title="Fri Nov 22, 2024 8:56 pm">1 week ago</span> I can see why the lyrics might seem abstract or "grown-up" for children to sing, but I think that is what I like about them. For me personally, they are definitely nowhere near the level of abstraction that I usually find in poetry... although I am typically reading adult poetry, not lyrics for children's choirs!

I do think the video did a really wonderful job in showing a child's perspective of the song's meaning.
Agreed on both points. The video, the live concerts, and the excellent audio recording brought this song to life and this song is definitely up there for me on the album. Trouble is, I like the album so much that I find nearly every previously unrecorded song fantastic.....how awful is THAT?! :lol:
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I enjoyed reading all your thoughts on this video :D

It's nice to know the boys draw the little bird themselves. I would be curious to know how they came up with the scenario, if the boys were involved ? And also when they shot it. They look a bit younger than summer 2024, in my opinion. In the album, there is a picture where you can see Luca sitting on the library table, and Edward is holding some equipment devised for shooting, likely a screen to deflect light. I like to see such "making-of" photos. It's nice how the boys are involved in the process.
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