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music4 wrote: Ave Virgo

Solo: Tom Cully (Everyone’s names were written in full. How come Tom’s wasn’t? Just a thought.)
Because he's a legend. :lol: No offense to Tom Cole but when someone mentions Libera and then Tom, most times we know they're talking about Tom Cully.
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carina_gino20 wrote:
music4 wrote: Ave Virgo

Solo: Tom Cully (Everyone’s names were written in full. How come Tom’s wasn’t? Just a thought.)
Because he's a legend. :lol: No offense to Tom Cole but when someone mentions Libera and then Tom, most times we know they're talking about Tom Cully.
Maybe it depends on personal preference? I believe Joe Platt was listed as "Joe" instead of Joseph when credited with a solo? Unless his full name was Joe. Or what about Alex Leggett? And Ben Crawley?

I think this new album is one of the few Libera albums that features more second/third treble or alto solos: Josh in "Time" and "Faithful Heart" and Ralph on "The Fountain". The only other solo I can think of in that register is Joseph Sanders-Wilde on "Recordare". Any others?
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plumpuff6 wrote:
carina_gino20 wrote:
music4 wrote: Ave Virgo

Solo: Tom Cully (Everyone’s names were written in full. How come Tom’s wasn’t? Just a thought.)
Because he's a legend. :lol: No offense to Tom Cole but when someone mentions Libera and then Tom, most times we know they're talking about Tom Cully.
Maybe it depends on personal preference? I believe Joe Platt was listed as "Joe" instead of Joseph when credited with a solo? Unless his full name was Joe. Or what about Alex Leggett? And Ben Crawley?

I think this new album is one of the few Libera albums that features more second/third treble or alto solos: Josh in "Time" and "Faithful Heart" and Ralph on "The Fountain". The only other solo I can think of in that register is Joseph Sanders-Wilde on "Recordare". Any others?
Yeah, its probably personal preference. The boys probably decide what they are listed as in the credits. ie. Alex is listed as "Alex Leggett" not Alexander Leggett, but Sam is listed as "Samuel Leggett." Josh, Mini-Ben, Sammy and Ed all have their full names listed, but Alfie and Freddie don't. Is "Ralph" usually short for something? Its not a very popular name over here, so I wasn't sure.
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libera36 wrote:
plumpuff6 wrote:
carina_gino20 wrote:
Because he's a legend. :lol: No offense to Tom Cole but when someone mentions Libera and then Tom, most times we know they're talking about Tom Cully.
Maybe it depends on personal preference? I believe Joe Platt was listed as "Joe" instead of Joseph when credited with a solo? Unless his full name was Joe. Or what about Alex Leggett? And Ben Crawley?

I think this new album is one of the few Libera albums that features more second/third treble or alto solos: Josh in "Time" and "Faithful Heart" and Ralph on "The Fountain". The only other solo I can think of in that register is Joseph Sanders-Wilde on "Recordare". Any others?
Yeah, its probably personal preference. The boys probably decide what they are listed as in the credits. ie. Alex is listed as "Alex Leggett" not Alexander Leggett, but Sam is listed as "Samuel Leggett." Josh, Mini-Ben, Sammy and Ed all have their full names listed, but Alfie and Freddie don't. Is "Ralph" usually short for something? Its not a very popular name over here, so I wasn't sure.
I am not 100% sure, but I think that Ralph is a given name, and not short for anything. My grandfather is named Ralph...
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carina_gino20 wrote:
music4 wrote: Ave Virgo

Solo: Tom Cully (Everyone’s names were written in full. How come Tom’s wasn’t? Just a thought.)
Because he's a legend. :lol: No offense to Tom Cole but when someone mentions Libera and then Tom, most times we know they're talking about Tom Cully.
He's never been credited as anything but Tom Cully so I guest that the way uh-huh uh-huh he likes it.

Crediting by nickname does not always work though. Just imagine though if "Touch the Sky" credited to Mini-James Mordaunt or more than a third of the songs on this album credited to Mini-Ben Philipp or prodcuction and some lyrics to Big-Ben Crawley (MCPS). Makes them sound like members of the mob.
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Next soloist for "Libera"

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After hearing Stefan sing "Deep Peace" and hearing reports of him singing the solo in "Sancte" in the Philippines, I feel that he might be singing the solo for "Libera" in their upcoming concerts.

What do you folks think?
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lacrymosa2 wrote:After hearing Stefan sing "Deep Peace" and hearing reports of him singing the solo in "Sancte" in the Philippines, I feel that he might be singing the solo for "Libera" in their upcoming concerts.

What do you folks think?
Definitely a possibility. Maybe Daniel, though? He has a pretty good range on "Panis Angelicus".
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libera36 wrote:
lacrymosa2 wrote:After hearing Stefan sing "Deep Peace" and hearing reports of him singing the solo in "Sancte" in the Philippines, I feel that he might be singing the solo for "Libera" in their upcoming concerts.

What do you folks think?
Definitely a possibility. Maybe Daniel, though? He has a pretty good range on "Panis Angelicus".
Maybe Daniel too. His voice reminded me of Liam's somewhat, although they are both December 1995 birthdays. I think this year's performances from them are going to be really interesting, along with a new setlist I presume. I wish I could go to Japan to watch them and to meet my relatives and my former intern colleagues, but school is my number one priority.
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plumpuff6 wrote:
carina_gino20 wrote:
music4 wrote: Ave Virgo

Solo: Tom Cully (Everyone’s names were written in full. How come Tom’s wasn’t? Just a thought.)
Because he's a legend. :lol: No offense to Tom Cole but when someone mentions Libera and then Tom, most times we know they're talking about Tom Cully.
Maybe it depends on personal preference? I believe Joe Platt was listed as "Joe" instead of Joseph when credited with a solo? Unless his full name was Joe. Or what about Alex Leggett? And Ben Crawley?

I think this new album is one of the few Libera albums that features more second/third treble or alto solos: Josh in "Time" and "Faithful Heart" and Ralph on "The Fountain". The only other solo I can think of in that register is Joseph Sanders-Wilde on "Recordare". Any others?


Yes, I did notice that. Previous albums tend to zone in on one or two major soloists who pretty much head the entire album, but Peace is a bit different.

I get the feeling that RP is using this album to try to "figure out" who his new leading soloist(s) is/are. Whereas New Dan had Tom on a LOT of solos, this one seems to give everyone at least a small part.

I imagine that the next album will re-focus again on a few boys. My money is definitely on Stefan Leadbeater. RP seems to really like him.
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lacrymosa2 wrote:After hearing Stefan sing "Deep Peace" and hearing reports of him singing the solo in "Sancte" in the Philippines, I feel that he might be singing the solo for "Libera" in their upcoming concerts.

What do you folks think?
I think that hearing Stefan on "Libera" is definitely a possibility. He has a full, strong voice, and soaring range, so it seems like he'd do well with that solo.
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I was listening to Ave Virgo again this morning, and I've noticed how different Tom's timbre is as compared to previous recordings.

Did anyone else notice this?

Maybe it's just because his entire opening solo was supposed to be sung quietly? At any rate, it felt like that range was becoming falsetto for him in contrast to it being much stronger previously. It had a much lighter quality to it than we've come to expect from Tom Cully the Great.
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bar wrote:I was listening to Ave Virgo again this morning, and I've noticed how different Tom's timbre is as compared to previous recordings.

Did anyone else notice this?

Maybe it's just because his entire opening solo was supposed to be sung quietly? At any rate, it felt like that range was becoming falsetto for him in contrast to it being much stronger previously. It had a much lighter quality to it than we've come to expect from Tom Cully the Great.
I also noticed it. Though I think it was that much, except that it was a bit airy. IMHO, I think this was recorded after Tom's voice broke. My father was part of a boy's choir before and he told me that it's possible for a teenager to maintain his treble voice even after the change of normal speaking voice with a lot of practice. The quality and timbre might change a bit but one can still high notes. :)
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chix wrote:
bar wrote:I was listening to Ave Virgo again this morning, and I've noticed how different Tom's timbre is as compared to previous recordings.

Did anyone else notice this?

Maybe it's just because his entire opening solo was supposed to be sung quietly? At any rate, it felt like that range was becoming falsetto for him in contrast to it being much stronger previously. It had a much lighter quality to it than we've come to expect from Tom Cully the Great.
I also noticed it. Though I think it was that much, except that it was a bit airy. IMHO, I think this was recorded after Tom's voice broke. My father was part of a boy's choir before and he told me that it's possible for a teenager to maintain his treble voice even after the change of normal speaking voice with a lot of practice. The quality and timbre might change a bit but one can still high notes. :)

I quite agree with that....

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I believe they both have lower speaking voices as Tom does, but they trained really really really hard to keep their voices and become countertenors...
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irishoreo wrote:
chix wrote:
bar wrote:I was listening to Ave Virgo again this morning, and I've noticed how different Tom's timbre is as compared to previous recordings.

Did anyone else notice this?

Maybe it's just because his entire opening solo was supposed to be sung quietly? At any rate, it felt like that range was becoming falsetto for him in contrast to it being much stronger previously. It had a much lighter quality to it than we've come to expect from Tom Cully the Great.
I also noticed it. Though I think it was that much, except that it was a bit airy. IMHO, I think this was recorded after Tom's voice broke. My father was part of a boy's choir before and he told me that it's possible for a teenager to maintain his treble voice even after the change of normal speaking voice with a lot of practice. The quality and timbre might change a bit but one can still high notes. :)

I quite agree with that....

[youtube][/youtube]

I believe they both have lower speaking voices as Tom does, but they trained really really really hard to keep their voices and become countertenors...
If we consider how high his vocal range as a treble, it would be fair to assume that the loss of half an octave would still allow him to hit fairly high notes. He's no longer going to hit those C6s and above that he loved but he could still probably sing comfortably in the F5 range.
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I still think he sung Ave Virgo in his unbroken treble voice. He may have been nearing voice change, and therefore delivered a certain maturity to the tone, than when he was kicking off the supersonic high notes aged 10/11 with ease - but it was still in treble.
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